&quot;Put down that wrench!&quot;

I don't think that I could have come up with a phrase that damns the Matrix more than "Dark City was a better film" ;)

You make good points, I agree. V fro Vendetta needs a good script, and a director who's not going to ride roughshod over the plot, particularly those bits which are most resonant with a UK setting. For example, set the film anywhere other than the UK, and you lose the Guy Fawkes/saint-or-sinner theme that pervades the comic.

Having seen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen butchered, I'd rather V for Vendetta was left untouched.

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I didn't say 'Dark City is a better film' - I just think it manages to convey menace and the hopelessness of struggling against an alien consciousness (alien in the sense of 'totally other', not in the sense of 'weird guys with big heads abducting hicks') in a stylish way which The Matrix doesn't.

I do think it's a good film, though, and makes important points about self-delusion and what it means to be happy.

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Also, it has Rufus Sewell, who is way cooler than Keanu Reeves...

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Actually, who directed Dark City? I think that film-noir style could make for a convincing V for Vendetta...

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IMdb says Alex Proyas, who is apparently doing an adaptation of I, Robot.

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Really? Fantastic!

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The downside is that it appears to star Will Smith.

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[screams]

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Oh Gods NO!

Tell me he doesn't sing? Oh please tell me he doesn't sing!

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My old sparring-partner

verwirrung and I have long said that any V for Vendetta film would work best in black and white.

I lobbied hard for it to be produced at the Citizens Theatre in Glasgow a few years back, but was told that modern audiences would never accept the notion of a completely state-controlled internet, with only one successful hacker.

There's also a casting problem. The director I spoke to laughed at the thought of any actor agreeing to be masked for the entire proceedings. He said that in his experience, there were few people who had the physical presence and voice skill to perform V, as all the bankable stars had built their careers on their looks, and any suitable unknown actor wouldn't attract sufficient studio backing.

In my nightmares I imagine the dying V removing the mask to reveal Matt Damon, who then tenderly kisses Eve (Halle Berry) goodbye to a swelling orchestral score, before she dons cape, mask and hat, and goes out into the London night to rescue Dominic (Colin Farrell).

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You forgot the "set on the hard streets of a future Nuw Yoick" bit.

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Ah - but it *wouldn't* be Nuw Yoick, as fascist state oppression, unlawful imprisonment and torture of "different" citizens and media manipulation never, ever happens in democracies such as the United States. Hoorah for freedom!

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True, but it would be hard to justify the presence of all those American actors in a film set in the UK at a time when the US is supposed to be gently glowing.

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