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I've now phoned Trading Standards at the City of London, and they can find no record of a condition on the license for the Melton Mowbray that would prohibit children. This would seem to contradict the duty manager's assertion that no children were allowed as a condition of their license. They also seemed interested that the Melton Mowbray were unable to show me the license copy or summary that they're required to have prominently displayed.

The next step will be to phone Fuller's head office and ask them to explain themselves.

Date: 2007-01-05 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmg.livejournal.com
The point of going to the MM was not to drink per se, but to meet up with the London SF crowd and possibly have a swift half before heading back to Waterloo. As it was, we managed to say hello in passing to most of the usual suspects before being thrown out. I'll remember the Penderal's Oak for future.

If they'd had a sign which read "No Children. No Dogs. No Irish." by the door, I'd feel slightly better disposed to them. To the best of my knowledge, the publican reserves the right of admission, so if they want to add extra conditions I can't really argue. However, don't lie by dressing it up as a legal imperative.

Date: 2007-01-05 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegreatgonzo.livejournal.com
As discussed above, the Penderels Oak is not the best pub in the area but it will be [livejournal.com profile] garklet friendly.

Date: 2007-01-05 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
There's always a table to be had in there, that's for sure. I can't remember the policy on children offhand though, but JDW are generally family-friendly. There's also a very large non-smoking area at the back.

Date: 2007-01-05 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegreatgonzo.livejournal.com
I'm fairly certain that when they decided to switch to a child friendly policy and introduce a children's menu they did the whole estate.

Date: 2007-01-05 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmg.livejournal.com
That's my recollection too.

The downside is that they also seem to have introduced TVs showing football to much of the estate at the same time.

Date: 2007-01-05 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegreatgonzo.livejournal.com
Luckily I live in a city with no end of good pubs catering for all tastes, from stupid numbers of well kept ale to those supporting my tastes in music so I rarely need to venture in to a JDW/LN1 house.
I still occasionally go in, when other people have picked the meeting pub or for cheap and fast food.

Date: 2007-01-05 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-floorlandmine.livejournal.com
To the best of my knowledge, the publican reserves the right of admission, so if they want to add extra conditions I can't really argue. However, don't lie by dressing it up as a legal imperative.
What you said. They can make up their own barmy rules (IIRC several Wetherspoon's have a "no hats" rule, presumably for the good of their CCTV), but they shouldn't pretend it's a legal thing if it isn't. And not having the licence to hand is definitely a Thing.

Date: 2007-01-05 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmg.livejournal.com
And that'll be the gist of my complaint to them.

Date: 2007-01-05 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
If they'd had a sign which read "No Children. No Dogs. No Irish." by the door ...

... then they'd almost certainly be guilty of racial discrimination and be risking prosecution under the Race Relations Act as variously amended.

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