Heteronormativity ahoy
Jul. 8th, 2010 10:29 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Scene: I was taking the garklet for a haircut, and we happened to pass a church that was ringing for matins. He asked why the bell was ringing, and misheard 'matins' as the name of one of his friends who moved to Cambridge last year (who I shall refer to as M). The important thing to note is that M is the child of a lesbian couple.
garklet:
- Where M?
nmg:
- M's in Cambridge.
garklet:
- Why M in Cambridge?
nmg:
- Because his mummies got jobs in Cambridge.
garklet:
- What about him daddy?
nmg:
- I don't know - M lives with his two mummies.
garklet:
- No, M not got two mummies. M got a mummy and a daddy.
nmg:
- No, M has two mummies. Remember, you saw them both at G's house earlier in the year. And you saw them when you went to M's birthday party. And you saw them almost every day when they picked M up from nursery.
garklet:
- *upset* No, M got a mummy and a daddy. M not got two mummies. You pooey!
nmg:
- I'm not pooey! Not all little boys and girls have a mummy and a daddy; some have two mummies, like M, and some have two daddies.
garklet:
- *very upset* NO! YOU WRONG! YOU POOEY! M GOT A MUMMY AND A DADDY! pthpthpthpt!
nmg:
- On that we'll have to disagree.
I mean, what else can you do in this situation?
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Date: 2010-07-08 09:58 am (UTC)My father's a doctor, and I apparently had a stand-up argument, aged 4-ish with him and a female doctor, in the hospital, about whether it was possible for a woman to be a doctor. They were maintaining that women could be doctors, I was convinced that a female doctor was a _nurse_.
Needless to say it took a while for my Dad to live that one down :->
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Date: 2010-07-08 10:29 am (UTC)Two days later, he was in nursery with a bunch of his male friends who were pretending to be nurses, complete with caps.
Hmmm. On the other hand, it could be that they were pretending to be female nurses (because all nurses are female, obv).
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Date: 2010-07-08 11:41 am (UTC)"Let's ask M or M's mum next time we see them"
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Date: 2010-07-08 01:18 pm (UTC)I'm the primary child carer, and Mrs Hau is a senior manager, so Kurtzhau has a good range sense of sex equality as the norm. I once told him that in the Middle Ages, nice ladies were supposed to shut up and agree with the knights - he was horrified!
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Date: 2010-07-08 01:30 pm (UTC)We then had a discussion (while I was driving - why does he always ask this stuff when in the car?) about how some people ahve two mummies, some two daddies and some, like him, a mummy and a daddy.
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Date: 2010-07-08 02:36 pm (UTC)And when kids understand completely what's going on, the resulting feelings and their understanding of them can still be... confusing
http://otoh.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/TomorrowIWillLikeYou
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Date: 2010-07-08 02:30 pm (UTC)I think this is going to be my verbal reaction from now on whenever I get hit with some cognitive dissonance.
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Date: 2010-07-09 12:13 pm (UTC)We're just starting to have short conversations with Aled.
Funniest recent one was when sister Alice came to babysit and Aled called her 'Hannah' (the name of my youngest sister). I said, 'That's not Hannah, it's Alice' and Aled called her 'Not-Hannah' for the rest of the weekend.
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